http://feedback.tf2maps.net/images/TF2Maps140x140.png http://tf2maps.net Feedback feed for pd_waterlog_72_a4a - Provided by TF2Maps.net https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ the launchpads make spy overpowered https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134746 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:44:31 +0000 this could be a good place for the exit some kind of underground route? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134745 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:44:24 +0000 big sightlines on mid https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134744 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:41:32 +0000 the map doesn't have enough rooms to buffer people from the point to spawn, spawn camping happens a lot. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134743 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:41:13 +0000 the buckets should only be deliverable in specific time windows to discourage holding the point https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134742 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:41:01 +0000 if you jump here you can see the spawn and already spawn camp people. spawn needs to be more protected and have more space https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134741 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:40:39 +0000 spawn are way too small and need more spawn entities https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134740 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:40:11 +0000 you can stand on top of this door and camp https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134739 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:39:49 +0000 lower this section https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134738 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:38:22 +0000 The jumpads should let you run onto them in the direction they will launch you, otherwise it is hard to get the full force https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134737 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:35:21 +0000 give opportunities for the other team to steal the points, otherwise it's too easy for a team to dominate the game https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134736 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:33:50 +0000 the jumps pads make it too easy to get a kill near their spawn and jump back to score it https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134735 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:33:18 +0000 the jumpads make great trickstabs https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134734 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:30:11 +0000 Every game is a roll https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134733 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:26:55 +0000 seam here https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134732 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:23:07 +0000 this room is visible https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134731 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:22:47 +0000 The point should be low ground. You don't want people to hold on the point, this isn't koth https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134730 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:22:16 +0000 a sentry gun shuts down the enemy team easily https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134729 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:21:27 +0000 central point is a flankless spamfest https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134728 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:20:28 +0000 i like the Buckets https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134727 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:18:07 +0000 should add the water back in, but make it expensive water https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134726 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:16:39 +0000 spawns are too small https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134156 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:29:40 +0000 so Snipers have a problem because they feed points to the enemy team as well by shooting ppl far away in enemy territory https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134155 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:27:50 +0000 or the enemy team picks up the points from their teammate you just killed https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134154 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:27:21 +0000 problem with PD maps is that after you have killed someone you have to run over and pick up the drop, and then you die or https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134153 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:27:02 +0000 need more health kit,pack,bottle on 'ground' https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134152 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:26:17 +0000 But minisentries are the only way to curb the Scout overpopulation.... https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134151 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:25:41 +0000 if point collector was in the sky, it would need a jump pad otherwise only jumping classes would be viable on this map https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134150 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:21:16 +0000 point collector should be a ring in the sky you have to launch through https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134149 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:20:32 +0000 put more point gathering spots into corners, so that it rotates? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134148 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:20:06 +0000 yeah whenever I have picked up some point I never manage to get to the enemy controlled mid aline, I'm just feeding them https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134147 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:18:59 +0000 need more side route https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134146 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:18:51 +0000 you sorta can but im exaggerating to make a point https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134145 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:16:18 +0000 I like how you can airstrafe from the jumps and perform drops on people. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134144 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:16:15 +0000 u should change the core drop sound https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134143 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:16:08 +0000 you can't really flank when the map is one room https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134142 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:16:05 +0000 which ultimately makes it kinda unfun for any classes that need cover to operate https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134141 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:15:55 +0000 you don't really choose what arena what you want to fight in, its just one big room https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134140 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:15:39 +0000 this suffers from the same fate a lot of bad arena maps do - there's no 'lanes' https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134139 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:15:24 +0000 people can seem to just camp the point and win https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134138 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:14:59 +0000 I dont think the nobould layer is necesari now the water is gone https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134137 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:14:24 +0000 if someone dies on top edge of jump pad, it's almost impossible to pick up the bucket they left https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134136 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:13:55 +0000 score area borderline block bullets, rockets https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134135 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:12:54 +0000 the only reason snipers dont dominate this map with giant distance sightlines is because scouts just kill them all https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134134 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:10:38 +0000 maybe a small layer of water to prevent falldamage from launchpads https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134133 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:06:45 +0000 map quickly devolves into a scout-demoknight-soldier-sniper fest https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134132 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:03:13 +0000 make realy wide open https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134131 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 22:59:33 +0000 Huge areas https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pd_waterlog_72_a4a/ Feedback 134130 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 07 Aug 2017 22:56:55 +0000