http://feedback.tf2maps.net/images/TF2Maps140x140.png http://tf2maps.net Feedback feed for pl_laborde_a31 - Provided by TF2Maps.net https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Most Payload maps have some mechanic to stall BLU between their capturing A and attacking B, so that RED can set up there - Badwater has the tunnel, requiring BLU to basically take A before they can push the cart through the tunnel - Snowycoast has a track length before A that's longer than BLU's routes to it, incentivising BLU to move forward to the A choke before they push the cart up to it - Barnblitz has the turntable. This map has a decent track length before A, but there's nothing to stop BLU from pushing the cart all the way up to A before they take the area, so the moment they break RED's hold and cap A, they can start pushing the cart to B, making it very hard for RED to respawn and get a hold on B. If they do happen to get a hold on B, B only has one route, so it's easy for them to keep it, so it ends up being one of those frustrating, high-variance points where RED either gets rolled on the first push or holds for the entire round. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280233 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:46:18 +0000 there is no flank around this corner https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280232 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:45:19 +0000 can see pickup shadow here https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280231 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:42:42 +0000 last point is impossible to push https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280230 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:29:57 +0000 i can't defend the cart around last because i just,, get sniped https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280229 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:29:16 +0000 this lobby is too spread out to work very well imo https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280228 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:29:08 +0000 The mechanic to slow BLU down before C combined with C's incredibly chokey nature seems to commonly create a scenario where BLU can only push the cart as far forward as the Corner of Death and they spawn close enough such that the cart seems to stay exactly there until BLU gets a miraculous push or loses the round. Again, there's only one place BLU can come from on C, so RED always knows where they'll be ubered into from, so they can juggle the players away from one of their two sentries. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280227 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:26:21 +0000 dont like the amount of fake spawn doors https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280226 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:20:41 +0000 i dont think we are supposed to be allowed in here before we cap c https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280225 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:20:09 +0000 this door is really slow https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280224 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:19:56 +0000 it's so easy for blu to just swoop around before we even get a moment to breathe and establish at the next point https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280223 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:18:48 +0000 show me i cant get out of this spawn >:( https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280222 at TF2Maps.net Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:17:20 +0000 it feels really awkward to naigate at blue last https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280117 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:32:36 +0000 the red routing makes it nearly impossible to establish a safe area for blu https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280116 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:32:05 +0000 this space is chokey enough without all these props making it even narrower https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280115 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:31:31 +0000 not a fan of this pickup placement where two packs are in the same area but they're seperated in weird ways https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280114 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:30:14 +0000 not a fan of that underground route, not sure if the rotation is worth the distance for blu https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280113 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:29:49 +0000 hard to defend https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280112 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:28:20 +0000 remove that door at C https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280111 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:28:00 +0000 still hard to defend https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280110 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:27:54 +0000 this spot https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280109 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:05:40 +0000 i would change this to a brush and remove the clipping or make it higher so it's obvious you can't walk onto it https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280108 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:05:07 +0000 it's a bit too easy to push fowards from this area https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280107 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:00:58 +0000 how https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280106 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:00:29 +0000 stickies can roll off the roof????? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280105 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 01:00:26 +0000 nonsolid barrels in pit https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280104 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 00:56:48 +0000 make the door go up maybe https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280103 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 00:55:48 +0000 the spot under these stairs should be blocked off https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_laborde_a31/ Feedback 280102 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 25 Dec 2020 00:53:15 +0000