http://feedback.tf2maps.net/images/TF2Maps140x140.png http://tf2maps.net Feedback feed for pl_sabotage_a2 - Provided by TF2Maps.net https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ BLU comes to a total stop at last due to there being two routes, one that theyre encouraged to take cuz that pushes the car https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172287 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 22:02:03 +0000 we're over-reliant on medics and dispensers due to how bad the pickup placement is https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172286 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 22:00:42 +0000 these dont reach the wall https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172285 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:59:45 +0000 can't go trough this door https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172284 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:58:38 +0000 this map is too dependant on medics and engis https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172283 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:57:25 +0000 i can barely survive rollout because its just long as fuck with no health https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172282 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:57:24 +0000 only one spawn point also the cabinet is facing sideways https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172281 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:57:22 +0000 this flank would probably work better if there wasnt so much open space right here that attackers die instantly https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172280 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:54:33 +0000 the cart path goes right past RED spawn. this means BLU can spawncamp when pushing and RED has very strong control https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172279 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:54:01 +0000 can there be stairs for this cuz I keep getting stuck here https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172278 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:53:34 +0000 the picup placement isnt very good. theres very little health and ammo, and they arent in the main routes so nobody uses th https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172277 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:52:59 +0000 the map would benefit from more cover and.. stuff I guess? across the board, but esp. on last https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172276 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:47:39 +0000 add another enterence to last https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172275 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:46:57 +0000 last is a big box with 2 entrances so its annoying to push https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172274 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:46:41 +0000 that is my prediction https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172273 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:46:40 +0000 like either red holds because blu has no great entrances to the point or blue rolls cus the map is so open https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172272 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:46:38 +0000 a lot of this map is empty space and it means the flow is weird https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172271 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:46:12 +0000 a sentry squat in the middle of the last zone can cover literally everything because cover is nonexistant https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172270 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:45:39 +0000 add some height variation to the area blu holds before last https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172269 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:45:31 +0000 routes to last are lame https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172268 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:44:31 +0000 no health or ammo https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172267 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:44:08 +0000 big heckin sightline https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172266 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:43:58 +0000 i have to walk through so much friggin empty space https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172265 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:42:25 +0000 last is a large empty room without much thought given to sightlines into it https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172264 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:42:16 +0000 add some cover here' https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172263 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:42:07 +0000 flow wise this map is just missing a lot of basic stuff like good spawn placement, cover, logical progression https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172262 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:41:47 +0000 last feels pretty bland https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172261 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:41:19 +0000 i feel like you need to study / play more Official payload maps to get idea of how they work https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172260 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:41:08 +0000 this whole area is basically empty, what do you expect to happen in this area? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172259 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:40:02 +0000 last two points are too open. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172258 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:39:45 +0000 awful awful awful sightline https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172257 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:39:40 +0000 move spawns up for second last https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172256 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:38:34 +0000 blue still spawns at their first spawn when B is capped?? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172255 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:38:33 +0000 oh, and I'm stuck there too https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172254 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:37:53 +0000 resupply still active after they capped https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172253 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:37:28 +0000 why do we have to push past red spawn on the 2nd point https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172252 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:37:19 +0000 this map feels a bit... empty. like, theres a lot of unused space https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172251 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:36:34 +0000 lots of empty unusuable space, find them and make them PRETTY https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172250 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:35:23 +0000 long sightline https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172249 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:35:04 +0000 texture and alpha seams in displacements https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172248 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:34:17 +0000 map feels overscaled in some areas https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172247 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:31:05 +0000 why not place spawn here, since it's the closest route to get to the cart track? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172246 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:30:57 +0000 it takes a really long time to get between spawn exits on blu https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172245 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:29:35 +0000 may need a forwardspawn for red start https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172244 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:29:25 +0000 no arrows indicating which way to go https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_a2/ Feedback 172243 at TF2Maps.net Mon, 23 Jul 2018 21:28:35 +0000