http://feedback.tf2maps.net/images/TF2Maps140x140.png http://tf2maps.net Feedback feed for pl_sabotage_v2_a3 - Provided by TF2Maps.net https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Needs more direction for blu team to push out of first point. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266091 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:58:34 +0000 to make it easier for attackers to attack B, possibly add a connecter from the outside to the stairs up to the balcony https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266090 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:58:25 +0000 clip this https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266089 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:58:21 +0000 i would personally recommend ditching the spiral design and instead having the cart go directly to the end of that room on an elevator https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266088 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:58:18 +0000 the cart path at B in general is just really long and the gameplay will never support it imo. no reason to make blue spend so long in that room when they need to clear red out to push the majority of it. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266087 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:58:11 +0000 Right now both routes are easily spammed and end up in the same location. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266086 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:57:10 +0000 A needs the alternate route to either end up somewhere different or it needs to be way less spammable. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266085 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:56:57 +0000 also, that rollback is on the opposite side of the room from the main red hold, which means when blue clears the room of red players, the cart has to spend a long time catching up https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266084 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:56:14 +0000 there should be a third route for every point https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266083 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:55:25 +0000 typically you want to try and ensure that blue team has successfully cleared an area before they can capture the point, which the design of B doesn't really seem to do. The most difficult part of B (the massive rollback) happens AFTER the point is capped, which is just kind of weird https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266082 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:54:17 +0000 b point WAY too powerful, maybe swap the one way door on the high ground so that blue can push through it instead of red https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266081 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:52:59 +0000 clip this https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266080 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:50:46 +0000 clip this https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266079 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:48:43 +0000 maybe add a window you can shoot through but not pass through here, also kinda like well https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266078 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:48:38 +0000 why can I stand on this https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266077 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:48:02 +0000 there should be a second flank to first https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266076 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:47:02 +0000 add a really high ground above B for blu to take control of kinda like Well https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266075 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:42:50 +0000 on B I would have built up about 10 Ubers except there's been no need to use them when I get them https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266074 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:41:56 +0000 the one way door upstairs seems unnessecary to me, you could just remove it. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266073 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:39:39 +0000 on B, the one high ground blue gets is really the only way for them to do anything, which might be fine if it was more useful. i think that route for blue needs more options https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266072 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:39:29 +0000 door above here goes through ground https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266071 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:39:29 +0000 the flank upstairs just forces you to be stuck in a corner with no real advantance. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266070 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:39:25 +0000 the high ground over B cant actually see most of the sentry spots https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266069 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:39:16 +0000 B is nightmare is to push into, the main path is a sightline that ends on the lowest ground. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266068 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:39:11 +0000 why is this door still open https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266067 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:38:01 +0000 that A sign is acting weird https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266066 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:36:39 +0000 what is this handrail? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266065 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:34:25 +0000 can see into blue spawn through this fence https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266064 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:32:55 +0000 resupply is quite far back in blu spawn https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3/ Feedback 266063 at TF2Maps.net Tue, 01 Sep 2020 17:32:42 +0000