http://feedback.tf2maps.net/images/TF2Maps140x140.png http://tf2maps.net Feedback feed for pl_sabotage_v2_a3b - Provided by TF2Maps.net https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ i feel like you rely on railings too much everywhere https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266613 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:13:56 +0000 i keep wanting to take these stairs when leaving spawn but they just loop back https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266612 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:12:55 +0000 even with no sentry and most stuff down we still cant push through https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266611 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:11:10 +0000 by ledge, I mean this corner here https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266610 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:10:28 +0000 A sucks to push https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266609 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:08:58 +0000 I think you should perhaps change the left route from a dropdown to leading to a highground platform https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266608 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:08:32 +0000 cover attempts to push from both entrances, with no easy way to actually get to that sentry https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266607 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:08:04 +0000 go down either, and for both the left and right routes a sentry on the little nook slightly left of the cart path will https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266606 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:07:46 +0000 left route is just a dropdown that you somewhat go blindly into, you're not put into a very advantageous position once you https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266605 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:07:19 +0000 and pushing through it as blu means that you have to go through a big exposed corridor that all of red is watching, the https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266604 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:06:56 +0000 I don't think the routing on A favours attackers very much. (from defenders view) the right route feels tight and spammable https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266603 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:06:26 +0000 for red https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266602 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:05:10 +0000 this map gives A too much cover https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266601 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:05:04 +0000 this light https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266600 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:55:36 +0000 this sightline blocker is pretty ineffective and awkward. lets defending snipers shoot people in the feet https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266599 at TF2Maps.net Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:54:41 +0000 too many forced gameplays. think simple https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266490 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:52:59 +0000 this cart lenght between B and C is unreasonable and should have been gone yesterday. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266489 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:52:42 +0000 Why does route close, how are we supposed to clear red if they manage to sneak behind B or have a nest. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266488 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:50:40 +0000 this is a choke with wierd angle https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266487 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:47:56 +0000 I think this new highground is making the worse, not better. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266486 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:46:32 +0000 Red has to hold A again rather B to prevent blue accessing the high ground way up at B. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266485 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:46:20 +0000 Why does blue get the extreme highground at B? Seems like a big overkill. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266484 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:43:01 +0000 What is the point of the whole door gimmick after A anyway? It does nothing but arbitarily slows blue down for two seconds. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266483 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:41:41 +0000 there's such a massive distance between B and C https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266482 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:40:53 +0000 at last https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266481 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:33:07 +0000 This has been feedbacked before and I can't believe it is still here, blue has just a flank to red spawn. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266480 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:32:59 +0000 please watch the demo and see how players are flowing around the map, it's somewhat Fucked https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266479 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:32:41 +0000 I have zero clue where people are coming or going after B. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266478 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:31:30 +0000 is this a route? don't use these doors or make them obviously blocked https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266477 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:30:31 +0000 and it means that trying to defend anywhere FORWARD of this point is useless because we just get flanked hard https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266476 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:29:54 +0000 Go There https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266475 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:29:37 +0000 i can't set up forward of this doorway because blu can just https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266474 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:29:35 +0000 we keep missing each other https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266473 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:29:19 +0000 INVISIBLE WALL HERE????????????? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266472 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:29:16 +0000 kinda overscaled https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266471 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:29:16 +0000 blu flank routes bypass points and are too strong in general https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266470 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:29:12 +0000 how the frick is it supposed to support it from collapsing ;d https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266469 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:28:01 +0000 very easy to get behind red between B n C, and you get trapped https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266468 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:27:05 +0000 you can get stuck in this door https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266467 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:26:21 +0000 Everything after B is massive, full of routes all over the place and just spreads everyone out. https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266466 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:26:06 +0000 how are blu at C??? the cart's halfway toward there. why do we spawn behind them?? https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266465 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:25:26 +0000 i feel like I should be able to rocket jump up the platforms at C and D https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266464 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:25:10 +0000 trapped here as blu between B n C https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266463 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:24:53 +0000 I just flanked to last as a heavy medic combo on attackers, we have so many routes to get past red https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266462 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:24:49 +0000 fucking love stepping out of spawn to get headshot by a sniper 1khu away https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266461 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:24:29 +0000 bad sight line to spawn https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266460 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:24:24 +0000 feels like I should be able to jump up to the platform above https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266459 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:24:16 +0000 this looks like a route for blu after we cap B https://feedback.tf2maps.net/map/pl_sabotage_v2_a3b/ Feedback 266458 at TF2Maps.net Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:23:23 +0000