koth_pain_train_station_a2
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Pain Train Station

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Avatar Tiftid left feedback: April 2021
https://tf2maps.net/threads/guide-how-to-make-better-koth-but-please-make-a-d-instead.42827/ - reading this guide should help you to understand why the point being easy to capture is a good goal to have in KOTH, and how to achieve it
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger left feedback: April 2021
plus open routes every now and then
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger left feedback: April 2021
rather than having separated buildings with fences between them, you usually want solid blocks of building between areas
Avatar Uyuxo😉 left feedback: April 2021
you can get stuck jumping over this wooden desk
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger left feedback: April 2021
the runtime from spawn to mid feels good
Avatar Kathen made an annotation at -177 -2864 399 while standing at -104 -2881 434 April 2021
its not immediately apparent i can jump this fence. its only slightly smaller than the roof right next door
Avatar CHICKEN GREMLIN left feedback: April 2021
as said many times, this map is too big. close it up a bit. and the cliff at mid feels useless and just adds to the problem
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger left feedback: April 2021
everywhere at once
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger left feedback: April 2021
rather than entering mid and being able to easily assess where danger will come from, you enter mid and are in danger from
Avatar 3-UP left feedback: April 2021
mid lacks a lot of cover, even without the scale issue
Avatar TechnicMatt made an annotation at 61 1505 370 while standing at 103 1534 395 April 2021
sniper is op
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger left feedback: April 2021
you're exposed almost everywhere, nowhere at mid feels safe
Avatar Chris☯ made an annotation at -1587 -999 107 while standing at -1519 -865 161 April 2021
The control point feels too tight
Avatar Lesbian Witch left feedback: April 2021
Map feels generally overscaled, you could prolly axe the entire cliff area and it'd feel much better
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger left feedback: April 2021
snipers can stand so far away that they're hard to make out, at which point it's a sign the sightlines are too long
Avatar Tiftid left feedback: April 2021
the general wideness/routes being far apart make flanking and spawncamping too easy
Avatar Lesbian Witch made an annotation at 110 2733 148 while standing at 360 2764 411 April 2021
This is an overly steep ramp
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger made an annotation at 282 -1729 80 while standing at 375 -1739 129 April 2021
this is just wasted space, no point in this being here
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger left feedback: April 2021
it should probably be more of a gradual incline from spawn
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger made an annotation at 73 -2735 139 while standing at -39 -2712 129 April 2021
this height variation is quite awkward for the first room out of spawn in this route, can be rained down on by enemies
Avatar Tiftid left feedback: April 2021
approaching the point is hard when I can get rained on by the cliff and not easily get people off it
Avatar fluury left feedback: April 2021
check out official koth maps and orientate yourself around their sizes
Avatar Kathen made an annotation at 913 -601 519 while standing at 936 -857 579 April 2021
waaay too open on the cliffs
Avatar fluury left feedback: April 2021
oversized
Avatar 100mg progesterone burger made an annotation at -596 -1522 387 while standing at -654 -1846 346 April 2021
don't give snipers great vantage points with no risk like this
Avatar Tiftid made an annotation at -1162 2844 117 while standing at -753 2908 180 April 2021
these pickups are way too close to spawn to be useful